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Paulipbartender
01-31-2008, 10:42 AM
I have managed to obtain some fascinating info on Santa Teresa which we wanted to share.

We've been sent a copy of their brand marketing presentation with loads of background info on the brands and the rum market, plus a pdf which gives loads of production information. The good people at Santa Teresa Uk are so confident in their rum that they've agreed to allow us to host them on our website.

Hope you enjoy

http://www.ipbartenders.com/rum_collection.phtml

Scottes
01-31-2008, 11:23 AM
*Fantastic* stuff!!

Paulipbartender
01-31-2008, 11:26 AM
I thought you might like that - I was buzzing when I was told it was ok to share

Milicent
01-31-2008, 11:54 AM
Thanks for posting and sharing with us. 1796 is a fantastic rum, and I am happy to know more about how it is made. Thanks again.

Tiare
01-31-2008, 12:29 PM
That was very interesting Paul, thanks for sharing this with us, much appreciated!

Dood
01-31-2008, 03:43 PM
Very cool!

Edward Hamilton
01-31-2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks for sharing that Paul. Keep in mind that this is marketing information. Martinique, for example, doesn't produce any commercial quantities of pot still rum.

The story isn't quite the same as I was told while visiting Santa Teresa on my visit last year, but it's still very good rum.

RumBarPhilly
01-31-2008, 09:28 PM
I was really looking forward to reading into how the solera method works. Its really quite innovative! Itll make for a more uniform product than a rum that is a blend of many rums.

The Scribe
02-01-2008, 01:51 AM
Quite interesting. Of course, they forgot Bermuda, but eh.

The Solera process is also what is used for Armagnac, no?

RumBarPhilly
02-01-2008, 03:01 AM
Quite interesting. Of course, they forgot Bermuda, but eh.

The Solera process is also what is used for Armagnac, no?

Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe no rum is made in Bermuda. Goslings merely ages and bottles its rums there. Not sure where the rums come from though.

RobertBurr
02-01-2008, 05:55 PM
Correct me if Im wrong, but I believe no rum is made in Bermuda. Goslings merely ages and bottles its rums there. Not sure where the rums come from though.

I'm pretty sure that Gosling's rum is made by RL Seale in Barbados.

RumBarPhilly
02-01-2008, 09:25 PM
Ah ha! Geez... how many different brands does R.L. Seale distill for?

RobertBurr
02-02-2008, 04:18 PM
Ah ha! Geez... how many different brands does R.L. Seale distill for?

Tommy Bahama, Gosling's, Foursquare, Doorly's, Crisma... not to mention Seale's own. There may be more, but that's all I'm aware of at the moment.

Demerara in Guyana produces rum for many others, including Tortuga.

You can buy wholesale quantities of rum from a number of distilleries to be aged and bottled by your own company -- or buy aged rums to be blended and bottled by your own company.

Edward Hamilton
02-02-2008, 04:57 PM
Tommy Bahama, Gosling's, Foursquare, Doorly's, Crisma... not to mention Seale's own. There may be more, but that's all I'm aware of at the moment.


RL Seale also owns the Old Brigand label. Up until a few years ago, RL Seale bought most of their rum from the West Indies Rum Refinery but after building the first new distillery in the Caribbean in decades they began making their own rum. It took a few years to age enough rum to use in their own blends.

RumBarPhilly
02-02-2008, 05:31 PM
Tommy Bahama, Gosling's, Foursquare, Doorly's, Crisma... not to mention Seale's own. There may be more, but that's all I'm aware of at the moment.

Demerara in Guyana produces rum for many others, including Tortuga.

You can buy wholesale quantities of rum from a number of distilleries to be aged and bottled by your own company -- or buy aged rums to be blended and bottled by your own company.


Robert, do you happen to know the logisitics and obtaining rums from a distiller for personal use... i.e. Quantity requirements, international law, etc..

RobertBurr
02-02-2008, 05:51 PM
Robert, do you happen to know the logistics and obtaining rums from a distiller for personal use... i.e. Quantity requirements, international law, etc..

Personal use? Not really, but I'm aware of some examples of how it's been done in large quantities. When you import cases of liquor from most countries into the US (Puerto Rico and US Virgins aside) you pay an import tax per bottle. If you import large quantities of wholesale liquor in a liquid container, most of these taxes are eliminated.

For example, it probably makes more sense to import large quantities of cachaŠ·a from Brazil to be bottled in the US, since bottles in Brazil are typically 700ml, whereas the US requires 750ml.

I know that Demerara in Guyana and Industrias Licoreras de Guatemala offer large quantities to various brands.

RumBarPhilly
02-02-2008, 08:44 PM
Okay, so...

Lets say I purchase 5 barrels of rum from R.L. Seale. First, how do I import it over, do I need to do it myself or are there some ways it can be freighted to me?

Secondly, if I bottle it (keeping in mind all state laws are different) could I brand it as my own and attempt distribution?

Finally, could I request specific rums be made from the distiller (i.e. different marks, different ages, different levels of char)?

RobertBurr
02-03-2008, 01:42 AM
I'm almost sure you can't buy a barrel of rum and ship it to your location. The barrels are not meant for shipping, just resting.

A licensed and experienced importer will arrange shipping of your rum and bring it through customs. Once it's landed, I don't think it's a big issue to bottle and label it. Distribution is another story.

Every state has laws about distribution and every county in each state has rules as well. With more than 3,300 counties in the 50 US states, anyone selling beverages across the country has a quagmire of regulations to deal with.

A realistic scenario might be more like this. You create a blend of various rums from wholesale sources, then contract a shop to blend and bottle your special formula. If the blending and/or bottling is done in a foreign country, you could list the name of that country on the label, such as Matusalem or Vizcaya.

Some Navy rums are made from components sourced from distilleries in various countries, then blended and bottled in the Virgin Islands, or other locations.

On numerous occasions, I've tried to convince Phil Prichard to sell me a barrel of his fine rum, but he cannot do it according to laws in his county and his state of Tennessee. He will, however, be happy to give me an old barrel, sell me 10 cases of rum and let me pour it in the barrel.

RumBarPhilly
02-03-2008, 03:11 AM
If not barrels, what is the rum shipped in?

You didnt answer the one question though, will a distillery give me an option of what time of rum to sell me (i.e. different mark, age, char, etc...)

Also, doesnt Prichards get their rum from Cruzan?

Paulipbartender
02-03-2008, 11:22 AM
You don't need to go to a distillery direct, Philly. There are a number of bulk rum suppliers who can buy direct from distillers and blend to order.

Here's a company we're using to supply rum to a large cocktail project www.mainrum.nl or http://www.mainrum.co.uk/

RobertBurr
02-03-2008, 03:22 PM
doesn't Prichards get their rum from Cruzan?

No, Phil distills his own rum in his pot still at a converted old schoolhouse in Kelso Tennessee.

He makes a bourbon, Double Barreled Bourbon Whiskey, that is contracted by a distillery in Kentucky. He buys aged bourbon, then dilutes it to 80 proof, then ages it in new charred oak barrels for another two years.

Paul's links to companies that specialize in these services are great examples of professionals that know how to do it.

angelsword
02-03-2008, 04:33 PM
No, Phil distills his own rum in his pot still at a converted old schoolhouse in Kelso Tennessee.

Distilled from Louisiana molasses, I believe.

RobertBurr
02-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Distilled from Louisiana molasses, I believe.

Yes, Phil Prichard is adamant about using high-quality table-grade molasses, which costs him a lot more than industrial grade molasses. He estimates the high grade contains up to 94 percent fermentable sugars.

The closest feed stock to Phil's super-molasses from Louisiana is probably Guatemela's sugar cane honey used in the production of Zacapa.

RumBarPhilly
02-04-2008, 10:41 PM
You don't need to go to a distillery direct, Philly. There are a number of bulk rum suppliers who can buy direct from distillers and blend to order.

Here's a company we're using to supply rum to a large cocktail project www.mainrum.nl or http://www.mainrum.co.uk/

Hey thanks for the link! I shot them an email, not sure if they could produce something for oversees.

worlok
03-25-2008, 04:56 PM
I've been trying to find this Santa Teresa locally but so far no luck. I live in northeastern NJ. (Bergen County)

Can't find Pusser's either... :(