View Full Version : Pyrat
saltgrassbear
11-05-2007, 04:29 AM
It's like going on a treasure hunt. I located some bottles of PYRAT XO Reserve. It is indeed different than the Appleton Reserve, and I do believe I prefer it. Wait let me try the Appleton again:D I've located a bottle of Cask 23 about 200 miles away and am wondering if the price and taste are worth the drive.
Now my question is: Is the PYRAT Planters Gold XO Reserve before Patron purchased them and is it still available?
SGB
Count Silvio
11-05-2007, 10:55 AM
Now my question is: Is the PYRAT Planters Gold XO Reserve before Patron purchased them and is it still available?
I believe I have one of the older bottles. Got it this year from spain. I should probably consider myself lucky?
Scottes
11-05-2007, 12:43 PM
I believe I have one of the older bottles. Got it this year from spain. I should probably consider myself lucky?
http://scottesrum.com/2007/06/17/pyrat-xo-old-vs-new/
Short version:
The old has a very nice taste, good basic rum but sweeter. Tastes of caramel and honey came through, with hints of vanilla and a slight orange taste. It’s sweet, but not overly sweet, and quite smooth. It has a slight burn that lasts, and the finish lingers a bit as well. This is an excellent rum.
The new has a distinct orange taste, is definitely sweeter, and has more honey coming through. It’s a bit smoother, with less burn and a longer finish. There’s a small bit of spiciness coming through at the end, leaving a bit of tingling in the mouth. This is also an excellent rum.
There’s no doubt in my mind that these are two different rums.
See this link for another comparison of the old Pyrat versus the new Pyrat:
http://www.bilgemunky.com/editorials/pyratxo.php
One should remember that Anguilla Rums does not make their own rum. They buy rum from 9 different makers and blend it. The same 9 rums are used for their Pistol, XO, and Cask 1623 - different aging, barrels, and blending are what define the final product.
So it's *possible* that Pyrat XO could vary from year to year. I do not know how strict they are with continuing the same taste over time. The changes noted above do appear to be quite drastic, and therefore intentional IMHO.
saltgrassbear
11-06-2007, 01:21 AM
Just ran across some PYRAT XO RESERVE in a box. I'm on evenings now and can't wait to get home and have a sip of rum. As I said, I've located a bottle of cask 23. Think I'll make the drive and check it out. If it's better than the xo reserve, it must be good.
SGB
Scottes
11-06-2007, 08:19 AM
The Cask 23 is very good, but very expensive. It's worth a treat, but it's not something I'd buy regularly. For the price of 1 bottle you can get 10 bottles of XO, or 6 bottles of Ron Zacapa 23-year-old.
But it is worth a special treat.
saltgrassbear
11-06-2007, 02:00 PM
Point taken, but I must try the Cask 23. Be nice if I could find an open bottle locally. There are rumors on top of rumors about PYRAT being discontinued. Should one go out and buy a couple cases?
SGB
Edward Hamilton
11-06-2007, 03:12 PM
Now my question is: Is the PYRAT Planters Gold XO Reserve before Patron purchased them and is it still available?
SGB
Pyrat was started by Martin Crowley who also started Patron Spirits.
Count Silvio
11-06-2007, 03:21 PM
There are rumors on top of rumors about PYRAT being discontinued. Should one go out and buy a couple cases?
SGB I hope this is not the case. It took forever for me to track down a bottle in europe for a "decent" price. Because of this price and difficulty of finding it, it is not possible for me to buy it very often. Some german netshops sell it for more than 80 euros, I got it for 50 euros from spain. Can't believe it is only 20 dollars in some places, I wish it was that cheap in europe. I'm not even going to mention the price of Cask 1623.
bluewave6
11-07-2007, 08:24 PM
I heard rumors a few months back that Pyrat was being discontinued but my local haunt said they have not heard of anything official and have had no problem getting the Pyrat XO and Pistol in. I do know that the Pyrat Blanco was discontinued a while back...I was fortunate to find an old stock bottle in a hole in the wall liquor store (which is where I find some of my best finds and prices :)
saltgrassbear
11-09-2007, 05:45 PM
One big question. How do you keep from drinking half a bottle at a time. Good RUM tastes so good, it's hard to stop.
SGB
robercw
11-09-2007, 06:13 PM
One big question. How do you keep from drinking half a bottle at a time. Good RUM tastes so good, it's hard to stop.
SGB
I combat this by keeping several favorites around and drinking them in a rotation of sorts. My current rotation consists of:
Ron Zacapa Centenario
Ron Pampero Anniversario
Doorley's XO
Cockspur 12
Pyrat XO
saltgrassbear
11-10-2007, 02:22 AM
I like that idea. I have the Ron Zacapa and Pyrat XO along with some Appleton Estate Reserve. Not to familiar with those others though. It's interesting how the different brands ease into your system. The Pyrat and Appleton seem to ease in and then ease out. The Zacapa comes on strong and stays for a while.
SGB
saltgrassbear
11-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Doing a little research, I read that the Pyrat XO and the Cask 23 are blended from the same rums. The difference is the amount of each one that is added. Any input on this?
Will rum age well in the bottle if unopened? How lon can one expect them to last?
Can the Ron Zacapa rum glasses be found and purchased anywhere?
Thanks
may you find that rare bottle you are searching for
SGB
Hank Koestner
11-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Saltgrassbear,
Rum does not age in the bottle, only in the barrel. As long as the bottle is not opened, your rum will last a very long time. We have had a long discussion recently on opened bottles, and the things that effect the rum. Please refer
to the rum disscussions forum, where there is a wealth of information for you to read. It has changed my whole perspective on how I will store my open bottles!! You will find it under "Once you open a bottle of rum, then what?"
Edward Hamilton
11-19-2007, 11:59 PM
Doing a little research, I read that the Pyrat XO and the Cask 23 are blended from the same rums. The difference is the amount of each one that is added. Any input on this?
Will rum age well in the bottle if unopened? How lon can one expect them to last?
Can the Ron Zacapa rum glasses be found and purchased anywhere?
Thanks
may you find that rare bottle you are searching for
SGB
There may be some of the same rums in these two rums but based on what I taste the Cask 23 lacks a lot of the flavoring that is added to the Pyrat XO .
saltgrassbear
11-20-2007, 02:05 PM
Hank, are you sure? I thought the only way to stop the ageing process was by temperature.
Anyway to verify the origins of Pyrat? Some say it was bought out by Patron, others say Patron started it.
SGB
Count Silvio
11-20-2007, 05:18 PM
Hank is right. Rum stops ageing in the bottle since the glass has 'nothing to offer' so to speak. The only thing that might affect the rum after bottling is air. Read more about the ageing process. (http://www.refinedvices.com/content/blogsection/14/84/)
saltgrassbear
11-20-2007, 11:01 PM
Lot of good info. on the aging process site. I don't think I'll have to worry much though. When I open a bottle, it doesn't last long enough to oxidize.
SGB
saltgrassbear
11-22-2007, 02:02 AM
I'm having a hard time keeping my rum consumption to half a bottle when I open one. Good rum is so smoothe you don't realize the bottle is half gone. Is this normal, or is it just me? It doesn't make me sleepy or tired. My wife can't even tell I've been drinking.
The El Dorodo 15 is very good also. Now for the next taste test.
SGB
Milicent
11-22-2007, 06:21 PM
You are not alone, at least not re drinking more than you realize. Good rum is smooth and extremely drinkable, but I find the small amount (1 1/2 to 2 ounces) consumed per serving makes me more likely to drink more. If I am drinking mixed drinks, I drink less rum. However, it is blatantly obvious to everyone when I drink half a bottle in one sitting.
Scottes
11-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Somehow I can drink half a bottle of rum in shots, neat, and not get much of an effect. But 3 rum & gingers and I feel very drunk.
After 15 years, my wife has seen me drunk only once. And that took 2/3 of a bottle of Zacapa.
Aaron Wolin
11-22-2007, 10:05 PM
Somehow I can drink half a bottle of rum in shots, neat, and not get much of an effect. But 3 rum & gingers and I feel very drunk.
Carbonation opens up the stomach and causes the body to process alcohol faster. Drinking rum neat also encourages sipping, so you tend to elongate your consumption.
Count Silvio
11-23-2007, 03:47 AM
Drinking rum neat also encourages sipping, so you tend to elongate your consumption. What a good rum encourages is gulping it straight from the bottle. Especially if you're on deck of a ship.
saltgrassbear
11-27-2007, 10:39 PM
Ed,
Did I understand that the Pyrat XO Reserve might have extra flavorings added to the rum. Is this standard practice on rums? I thought the flavor came from the blending itself and the aging process.:eek:
Ed,
Did I understand that the Pyrat XO Reserve might have extra flavorings added to the rum. Is this standard practice on rums? I thought the flavor came from the blending itself and the aging process.:eek:
While I was at the factory they didn't mention adding any flavoring...although I believe our guide said that they do add some sugar depending on which rum they're making...and I'm sure that the Cask 23 and XO, while ostensibly made from the same rums, are made with different quantities of each rum in the mixture, and are probably left in the casks for differing periods - all of which would affect the flavor of the finished product.
Patron makes an orange liquor as well. I have heard that they age Pyrat in the used barrels from the liquor. Maybe Ed can let us know if this is the case or not.
There is definitely an orange flavor to the rum.
Patron makes an orange liquor as well. I have heard that they age Pyrat in the used barrels from the liquor. Maybe Ed can let us know if this is the case or not.
There is definitely an orange flavor to the rum.
There's a Patron Orange Liqueur as well as a Pyrat Orange Liqueur (which my wife bought while we were there). I haven't tried the Patron liqueur, but the Pyrat is thick and syrupy and quite good.
Edward Hamilton
11-28-2007, 01:14 AM
Pyrat XO is definitely flavored with orange flavoring and sugar. It's easy to see for yourself by pouring a few drops on the palm of your hands and then rubbing them together. You'll be left with a sticky orange flavor on your hands. I don't believe the Cask 23 has as much orange and definitely not as much sugar as in the XO. Blenders can add flavorings and sugar to their rum, but there are limits, though this is rarely checked.
Hank Koestner
11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
I prefer the older offering from Pyrat XO. The lastest bottle that I opened has a stronger orange flavor, and is a touch sweeter. On another note, Pyrat Pistol mixes well with tonic, I tried this when I was in Anguilla last year.
I will have to re visit this cocktail, to see if it is as good as I remember. Everything tastes better when your in the Islands.......... :rolleyes:
saltgrassbear
11-29-2007, 08:54 AM
Are the older bottles of Pyrat XO available anywhere. I would like a bottle or two for taste comparisons.
SGB
Scottes
11-29-2007, 09:10 AM
I compared the two on my blog, and include a pointer to Bilgemunky's page where he did the same.
http://scottesrum.com/category/comparisons/pyrat-xo-old-vs-new/
Count Silvio
11-29-2007, 10:47 AM
I'd like to do such a comparison only I can't get the new XO with a decent price. It was hard to find any XO.
saltgrassbear
11-29-2007, 03:11 PM
We have the newer XO locally for under 25.00 a bottle, but the Planters Gold XO is non existant. I would be willing to swap a couple of bottles if available.
Something that's also disapearing off the shelves very fast is the Ron Zacapa 23 year.
SGB
bluewave6
11-29-2007, 03:29 PM
I may be able to find a couple of the older XO Gold in a few of my local stores. If anyone is interested in "swapping rum" drop me a line. I have a limit amount of rum selection in Delaware and would love to try some of the more commonly available rums from other parts of the US.
Count Silvio
11-29-2007, 07:30 PM
We have the newer XO locally for under 25.00 a bottle, but the Planters Gold XO is non existant. I would be willing to swap a couple of bottles if available.
Something that's also disapearing off the shelves very fast is the Ron Zacapa 23 year.
SGB How much is Zacapa over there? We recently got it in our selection over here in Finland for 37 euros (54.5 USD). 25 for XO? Jesus thats cheap. XO is one of the most expensive rums in europe. Atleast in Spain and Germany.
saltgrassbear
11-29-2007, 08:39 PM
The Zacapa 23 sells for 39.95 in Texas.
SGB
The last time I bought Zacapa it was on sale for $30US.
Scottes
11-29-2007, 10:49 PM
Zacapa 23 is $40 anywhere near me, but according to Wine-Searcher.com appears to range from $30 to $56 across the US, with about $40 being the most common.
Pyrat XO is $36 near me, but $22 in the next state. Wine-searcher says the US ranges from $20 to $52. $24 seems like the common low price, and $38 the common high price. The wild price range for this one is quite odd.
Milicent
11-29-2007, 11:25 PM
I don't quite understand the huge price spread of Pyrat XO either. Locally (Fort Worth, Texas), I can find it anywhere from $23 to $32. Pyrat Pistol has an equally great range between $13 and $26 for 375 ml. I've always bought mine while in California (Sacramento) on sale for $19.99, which seems to be a fairly regular sale price. At that price, it is an excellent value.
Scottes
11-30-2007, 12:46 AM
I've seen Pistol - 375ml - for anywhere from $14 to $30, all near me. For $14 I grab a bottle. There's no way it's worth $60 for 750ml IMHO.
Count Silvio
11-30-2007, 03:47 AM
Pyrat XO is $36 near me, but $22 in the next state. Wine-searcher says the US ranges from $20 to $52. $24 seems like the common low price, and $38 the common high price. The wild price range for this one is quite odd. It gets even odder when you reach europe. Price is anything between 40Ђ (58.9 USD) and 80 Ђ (117.9 USD).
Milicent
11-30-2007, 07:41 PM
One last note re Pyrat XO (the newer formulation). I tried the pouring a few drops on your hand, letting it dry, and then looking for a sticky residue on your hand trick with the new Pyrat XO without finding any stickiness in my palms. Maybe I didn't do it right, but I am interested to know what other people found doing the same. If you did find the stickiness, tell me exactly what you did. I would like to experience this for myself. Thanks.
Hank Koestner
11-30-2007, 08:53 PM
You have to rub your hands together a bit. I did it with my latest bottle, and the orange residue was very evident.
Milicent
12-02-2007, 08:30 PM
I began with a little more Pyrat than my first attempt and rubbed for a while. I can now say I have discovered the orange. From every thing I've read, it only makes sense. I still enjoy all of the Pyrat products I have tried so far and am looking to try the Blanco ASAP.
They make a good rum for a reasonable price, excluding the Cask, of course. That is a great rum but prohibitively expensive. I don't know that I'll be replacing my birthday bottle any time soon. I have yet to try this test with the Cask. We'll see what that turns up.
Scottes
12-02-2007, 10:12 PM
...and am looking to try the Blanco ASAP.
If you can find it, grab it. My understanding is that it is no longer made. Wine-searcher.com shows some places with stock, but none in TX.
If you can find it, grab it. My understanding is that it is no longer made. Wine-searcher.com shows some places with stock, but none in TX.
QFE. Nothing stings more than passing on a bottle only to discover you can't get it anymore.
Aaron Wolin
12-03-2007, 04:14 AM
... and am looking to try the Blanco ASAP
They used to sell this at Trader Joe's in California, but I haven't seen it anywhere else. It was a decent white rum if I remember correctly - relatively smooth with a slight complexity that made it stand out from your typical Bacardi. It was a bit sweeter as well.
If you can find it, grab it. My understanding is that it is no longer made. Wine-searcher.com shows some places with stock, but none in TX.
That's a shame. It was definitely worth mixing in certain drinks like mojitos when you took the price (around $8) into consideration.
Edward Hamilton
12-03-2007, 11:01 AM
That's a shame. It was definitely worth mixing in certain drinks like mojitos when you took the price (around $8) into consideration.
If you were buying it for around $8 a bottle, it won't be around for long.
Milicent
12-03-2007, 02:10 PM
I know Trader Joe's sold it for around $8 a bottle a few years ago. I have seen it on three sites lately for $20-25. All three online stores just began listing it, because I have looked for the Blanco in the past without success. I don't know if this is new stock. I do know I am glad to have the opportunity to buy it. I just wish I could do so for the great price of $8.
Scottes
12-03-2007, 09:13 PM
I paid $9 for my bottle of Blanco. Wine-searcher.com lists it from $14 to $31.
emeraldsmoke
12-06-2007, 04:56 AM
There may be some of the same rums in these two rums but based on what I taste the Cask 23 lacks a lot of the flavoring that is added to the Pyrat XO .
Ed, in your opinion is it a better rum without the additional flavoring?
saltgrassbear
12-06-2007, 08:05 PM
There must be something pleasing about the Pyrat XO. Three of my co. workers have switched over to XO after tasting it. One of them was a big Cognac drinker. Even if it does have sugar and orange mixed in, it does not make my blood sugar go up.
SGB
Edward Hamilton
12-06-2007, 11:10 PM
Ed, in your opinion is it a better rum without the additional flavoring?
I prefer not to add too much sweet flavoring to my rum, but that's just my taste.
There must be something pleasing about the Pyrat XO. Three of my co. workers have switched over to XO after tasting it. One of them was a big Cognac drinker. Even if it does have sugar and orange mixed in, it does not make my blood sugar go up.
SGB
This comment brings to another point which seems to be a recurring theme in the rum industry. Being the most diverse spirit behind the bar is only part of the appeal of rum. But how many people can name more than three rums without looking at the ceiling and muttering to themselves? Most consumers tasted one of the big brands years ago and thought that was all there was to rum. Although I don't drink much of some of the artificially sweetened spirits bottled as rum today, it doesn't offend me when someone tries something new and likes it and then tries something else. Before you know it they're looking for more and better rums. And then they discover something else they like and before you know it their whole thought about rum has changed and they have broadened their horizon.
And that for me is the reward for all of the work I do.
Milicent
12-07-2007, 02:54 PM
Ed,
Your comments are right on. Pyrat is what got me into rum. I went to the liquor store to buy rum for a beach trip. Pyrat was the only "better" on the shelf in the middle of Captain Morgan, Bacardi, and a generic brand. I was sold.
Since then, I've tried loads of other rums. I still like Pyrat but there are so many better rums out there. So, does that make Pyrat a "gateway" rum?
Edward Hamilton
12-07-2007, 05:04 PM
Ed,
Your comments are right on. Pyrat is what got me into rum. I went to the liquor store to buy rum for a beach trip. Pyrat was the only "better" on the shelf in the middle of Captain Morgan, Bacardi, and a generic brand. I was sold.
Since then, I've tried loads of other rums. I still like Pyrat but there are so many better rums out there. So, does that make Pyrat a "gateway" rum?
Gateway is a good term for it. I'm not sure how corporate marketing for Pyrat would like that but if "Pyrat was the only "better" on the shelf in the middle of Captain Morgan, Bacardi, and a generic brand," and you bought it and continue to like it, I'd have to think that that was a good thing for Pyrat and the other rums you've gotten to know since that experience.
saltgrassbear
12-07-2007, 06:16 PM
Ed,
Would you be willing to list some of the artificially flavored rums for the forum. I have tried the old Bacardi in my youth, Appleton Reserve, Pyrat XO, Ron Zacapa 23, El Dorado 15 and Pusser blue. Of the these the Pyrat, Zacapa and El Dorado are my favorites. The Appleton is good, but the Pusser has to be mixed to be drinkable for my tastes.
SGB
saltgrassbear
12-09-2007, 11:07 AM
Tried the Cruzan Single Barrel last night. This has to be the smoothest rum I've tasted so far. Reminds me of the rice fields I put so many long hard enjoyable hours in. Don't know why, but that's what comes to mind when I drink this rum. This is a must have case of rum. This might be one Rum my wife will sip neat.
SGB
Count Silvio
12-09-2007, 01:32 PM
Try adding a couple of drops of water in the Single Barrel, it will bring out some flavours better.
Edward Hamilton
12-09-2007, 10:13 PM
Ed,
Would you be willing to list some of the artificially flavored rums for the forum.
SGB
Almost every distiller/blender will tell you that they only use natural flavors. While that may be true, often the natural flavors are not actually the flavor on the bottle. A good example is canned pumpkin pie filling. Most of what I see on the store shelves is made from sweet potatoes and spices, it's natural, but it isn't pumpkin.
Mattia Volontи
12-10-2007, 12:07 AM
Almost every distiller/blender will tell you that they only use natural flavors. While that may be true, often the natural flavors are not actually the flavor on the bottle.
In my opinion all the "rum" that contains extra flavour (not produced by distillations and/or ageing) couldn't be called rum. Unfortunately many producers and importers don't worry about.
For example, in Italy a wine producer can't add sugar in wine, otherwise it's not called wine. That's because there are a strict product regulamentation.
About "gateway rum" definitions, I believe that's perfect. Many people starting to love rum thanks to this "gateway rum", more easy to appreciate and often sweety. Although if isn't truly rum.
KINGSTON
12-10-2007, 01:20 PM
I hope this dosen't Sound Stupid~ Can the Cork go bad and Spoil the Rum like a Cork can do to a bottle of Wine? I have two bottles of Pyrat and they taste very differently. Any info would be great.
Count Silvio
12-10-2007, 01:46 PM
I am not sure it would affect rum as much as it would wine. I don't think I've ever heard of a corked spirit bottle. What does the cork look and smell like in the bottle of Pyrat you suspect is corked?
It is also possible you have the older Planters Gold and the newer XO Reserve, they have been told to taste different. I actually wrote an article about cork (http://www.refinedvices.com/content/view/24/1/) recently and there is also some discussion about it here. (http://www.refinedvices.com/forum_/viewtopic.php?t=23)
KINGSTON
12-10-2007, 02:02 PM
Their is loose cork in the bottle. The cork it self is very soft (Smell's like Rum). It is from an older bottle bought a year or two ago if not three. I never drank it because it tasted strange. I thought to my self this Rum dosen't taste as good as people have lead me to think. Then a friend of mine bought a bottle recently- I noticed that the bottle looked as if it had a few updates. More Gold foil on the label and so fourth. I bought a new bottle-I checked to make sure that the bottle didn't have any loose cork before I bought it. I will be cracking it open this Christmas. I do enjoy wine- And I can taste when a bottle goes bad from the cork but................. Rum is somthing new to me (only 3 to 4 yrs) Most Rum that I have tried to not have Corks.
Scottes
12-10-2007, 05:05 PM
There has been some talk about comparing the "old" Pyrat XO to the "new" version. I blogged about it, and this article contains a link to Bilgemunky's post about a comparison of the two.
http://scottesrum.com/category/comparisons/pyrat-xo-old-vs-new/
But after some of our discussion in another thread, it could just be oxidation that caused the change. (But I doubt that oxidation is the only reason for the change.)
Count Silvio
12-10-2007, 06:18 PM
I am going to be writing a review of the Planters Gold XO (Older) sometime. Perhaps I'll review it as a christmas present for myself. It would be interesting to try it next to the newer Pyrat XO. Anyone want to trade some XO for cuban rum? :p
saltgrassbear
12-10-2007, 08:10 PM
Count,
If we could meet eye to eye that could be possible. The Pyrat XO is available here. If your a Texican.
SGB
Count Silvio
12-10-2007, 08:12 PM
I am actually Finnish.
berksowl
12-10-2007, 11:46 PM
I'm working on a bottle of the Pyrat XO right now. I have a hypothesis to run by you lot: It is that the old version ( or the last go-'round of the old version) of the XO has a yellow ribbon around it, but that the new version has no ribbon and instead has a metal plate, like a key chain or a military serial tag.
Sound plausible?
Scottes
12-11-2007, 12:19 AM
Both my bottles had ribbons and medallions.
Edward Hamilton
12-11-2007, 12:40 AM
I am not sure it would affect rum as much as it would wine. I don't think I've ever heard of a corked spirit bottle. What does the cork look and smell like in the bottle of Pyrat you suspect is corked?
There is a long discussion about what happens to open bottles (http://ministryofrum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455) on this forum, as if the cork was compromised. On the other hand, your cork may be rotten and affecting the spirit. Or the spirit may be compromised.
angelsword
12-11-2007, 12:49 AM
Count, **** If your a Texican.
Not many Texicans on this forum. And even fewer can Count. In Texas, girls can count to 20 (if they are barefoot); but since I'm a Texican boy, I can count to 21.
saltgrassbear
12-12-2007, 09:29 AM
Re-take on the Cruzan single barrel. By the time the bottle was empty this rum was tasting like a smoothe scotch. Opened a bottle of Santa Teresa 1796 and so far it tastes delicious. We'll see what it tastes like at the end of the bottle.
I still like my Pyrat XO, gateway or not. I
have enjoyed sipping this rum better than any other so far with the exception of the Zacapa 23 and they run head to head.
SGB
saltgrassbear
12-17-2007, 10:38 PM
Does anyone have any tasteing experience with the PYRAT XO Reserve in 375ml, pints? Found some and I think I'll give them a try. I was also wondering if the smaller bottles are hand blown.
SGB
Milicent
12-18-2007, 07:59 PM
I picked up half a dozen for Christmas gifts. One recipient immediately opened the bottle and shared it. I didn't notice a different taste from the larger bottles. Re the hand-blown bit: I had always heard this about the XO bottles, but I can see a line (from a mold being used) on every bottle I have and have ever seen. The 375 likewise have the mold line.
saltgrassbear
12-22-2007, 01:40 PM
For those who like the Pyrat XO Reserve. I picked up a few bottles of the 375ml and it seems to have less orange taste and not quite as sweet. Very, very tasty. The price was the same as for the 750's and maybe a few cents cheaper. They do make excellent presents.
SGB
Lew Barrett
12-25-2007, 04:53 PM
Hi all,
I'm just reviving this long running thread.
I'm relatively new to rum as a collection, but certainly not new to drinking and enjoying it. I obtained my first bottles of Pyrat XO only a few weeks ago on the recommendations of "everyone" and I'm afraid it falls into the camp of "flavored" for me. I fear I've come too late to it. I find the orange flavor to be cloying. It's too bad, because underneath it all, I like the rest. I've also found a slight headache in the morning. I'll try it again, I have the bottles after all, but so far Pyrat seems highly flavored for me. Smooth and warming though.
lesist
11-03-2010, 07:50 AM
just got my bottle of the pyrat xo... and i find this stuff awefull!!! mb it works with cocktails, but definately not a sipper for me... just sugar and orange.. thats not what rum should be like :(
Edward Hamilton
11-03-2010, 12:31 PM
Over the years, I've noticed considerable change in the flavor profile of Pyrat XO. At one point the rum flavor was completely overpowered by orange and sweet flavors. A few years ago the orange flavor was much more balanced. I understand that the bottling plant in Anguilla has closed so I expect more changes. I can't tell you bottle or batch numbers when things changed but wish I could give you more information about this one.
Jamie76
11-03-2010, 11:48 PM
There is an orange flavor to the rum, but definitely not overpowering. I'd love to try the older version of Pyrat to see how the original tastes against the newer.
Mistahunter
11-04-2010, 12:28 AM
Gotta agree with Lesist on this one...
Cool bottle, cool name, sh*tty rum...
Almost as disappointing at Sea Wynde...
jjwest
11-04-2010, 02:31 PM
Not on my sipping list, but it is an interesting mixer. Legal Seafoods is pairing this rum with Gossling's Black Seal for a very intersting (some might say "different") Mai Tai. Ruby Tuesday is featuring it in a Hurricane, and Cuba Libre is doing a mojito with it.
Jordan
11-04-2010, 08:03 PM
Pyrat was the first rum I had that wasn't Captain Morgan, and that first bottle I found delicious. However once I got to the second bottle I couldn't stand it, although I wasn't yet to the point of drinking rum neat...I did find over this summer that when mixed with Lemonade, Pyrat is amazing.
As far as the label and bottle goes, I do find it to be one of the more interesting bottles in my collection, and I've had the medallion on my keyring for almost a year now.
vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.