El Dorado High Strength Rum in U.S.

[RobertBurr]

At present, El Dorado High Strength Rum (151 Proof) is available in NJ, NY, TX and IL only. Florida will soon have this high-quality, high-strength white rum as well.

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[Michael]

We wish they stocked it locally, so we didn't have to mail order. Of the three overproofs on hand, it is preferred over the Lemon Hart 151 and JW&N 126. The latter two are still well-liked and regular cocktail ingredients, but if we had to choose just one, it would be the El Dorado.

[Berbician]

The label is very similar to the "High Wine" label. "High Wine" is an overproof rum that has been produced, mainly for Guyanese domestic consumption, by DDL for many years. I seem to remember that it was only 138 degrees proof and not 151.

I bought a bottle a few years ago at "Tottenham Wines" (in West Green Road, London N15), which used to be the only shop in London where you could get the full El Dorado range. I think that they only stock the premium El Dorado stuff now, but it's well worth a visit as they have some interesting odds and ends. It is, however, well off the beaten track, so wear a bullet-proof vest:rolleyes:.

[Paulipbartender]

That is the bad-lands! I remember having to mislead cabbies to go through that part of town to get home to Walthamstow many many years ago

[RobertBurr]

That is the bad-lands! I remember having to mislead cabbies to go through that part of town to get home to Walthamstow many many years ago

Dangerous spirits often live in dangerous places.

[primate77]

I can get this rum where I live, but never have... what's the specific use for an overproof rum?

Does it actually add a flavor component to a drink? Or does it merely get you to where you want to be quicker due to it's higher potency?

[RobertBurr]

P-U-N-C-H is the reason for overproof rum around here. A tropical fruity delicious concoction can handle the high-octane nature of overproof rums. It's the kick, the zoom-bang, the yee-haw element that turns a nice little sipping drink into a powerful punch.

[primate77]

It's the kick, the zoom-bang, the yee-haw element that turns a nice little sipping drink into a powerful punch.

Oh, you mean it turns mild-mannered housewives into salsa-dancing divas throwing all inhibitions to the winds, and button-collared accountants slink around the coffee room on Monday mornings with that look of shame on their face because some of their co-workers were at that same party Saturday night, and they saw "Bob the Accountant" in action!:D

So, you are basically saying it's an octane increaser? RIght?

[Tiare]

Does it actually add a flavor component to a drink?

Or does it merely get you to where you want to be quicker due to it's higher potency?

It does give a flavor component, especially JW&N. And it does give a P-U-N-C-H..

A good floater of say Lemon Hart 151 to a suitable Tikidrink can make the drink (and you) skyrocket, but first it creeps up on you slowly..

[Scottes]

I just saw a bottle on the shelf of a store in Connecticut Saturday. I was surprised to see it - but at 151-proof, not tempted.

[El Dorado]

At present, El Dorado High Strength Rum (151 Proof) is available in NJ, NY, TX and IL only. Florida will soon have this high-quality, high-strength white rum as well.

http://giftedrums.com/MOR/ElDorado151.gif

Thanks Robert. That is the HIgh Strength.

[Paulipbartender]

Oh, you mean it turns mild-mannered housewives into salsa-dancing divas throwing all inhibitions to the winds, and button-collared accountants slink around the coffee room on Monday mornings with that look of shame on their face because some of their co-workers were at that same party Saturday night, and they saw "Bob the Accountant" in action!:D

So, you are basically saying it's an octane increaser? RIght?

It's not only an octane increaser. At higher proofs you get additional flavours locked into the alcohol. Try the JW&N Overproof or the quality El Dorado offerings and you'll see what we mean

[Michael]

It's not only an octane increaser. At higher proofs you get additional flavours locked into the alcohol. Try the JW&N Overproof or the quality El Dorado offerings and you'll see what we mean

My wife and I have to concur with your view that the El Dorado and JW&N overproofs, although having contrasting styles, are both quite flavorful. We keep looking for cocktail uses for the El Dorado High Strength in particular, as it has a taste particularly pleasing to our palates.

[Paulipbartender]

We've done a lot of training work in the UK with Wray and Nephew educating bartenders that it isn't just an overproof rum....it's an over-flavoured rum. Too many bars only keep overproofs for setting fire to things or finishing off obnoxious drunks at the bar. Just use less of overproof rum in a drink and it's the same abv but carries unique flavours.

Alternatively some times of the year it's fun to use the same amount and end up like aforementioned Bob the Accountant

[leisure master]

I have been looking for the El Dorado 151 here in NYC, but no luck yet.

I had been using Lemon Hart 151 in my Zombies but I have since run out and you definitely cannot get LH in NY. I usually pick up some LH when I visit family in MA. Just gotta get my hands on another demerara 151.

A great bar down the street from me (Elettaria) uses the El Dorado 151 in their Zombies and I did not notice a significant difference, so I look forward to finding it for myself.

[Scottes]

Joe, the Blanchards in Jamaica Plain carries the ED 151. If/when you make it up here again....

[Freeki_Tiki]

Where can I find this in Florida?

[RobertBurr]

soon come... not in Florida yet.

[El Dorado]

The label is very similar to the "High Wine" label. "High Wine" is an overproof rum that has been produced, mainly for Guyanese domestic consumption, by DDL for many years. I seem to remember that it was only 138 degrees proof and not 151.

I bought a bottle a few years ago at "Tottenham Wines" (in West Green Road, London N15), which used to be the only shop in London where you could get the full El Dorado range. I think that they only stock the premium El Dorado stuff now, but it's well worth a visit as they have some interesting odds and ends. It is, however, well off the beaten track, so wear a bullet-proof vest:rolleyes:.

You are quite correct, Berbician, it is the same good old high wine. Actually the lable was a little misleading since lots of people out of Guyana took the name literally as wine.

[Joe Riley]

El Dorado 151 is available in Washington, D.C. as are the white, gold, dark, 12-yr, 15-yr, 21-yr and the Rum Cream Liqueur.

[El Dorado]

El Dorado 151 is available in Washington, D.C. as are the white, gold, dark, 12-yr, 15-yr, 21-yr and the Rum Cream Liqueur.

Thanks Joe. Lots of people will be happy to hear the word and to know that the product is now close at hand.

[Tiare]

I really hope it will be sold in sweden too.

[Joe Riley]

Thanks Joe. Lots of people will be happy to hear the word and to know that the product is now close at hand.
Oops - I forgot to include the 3-yr and 5-yr and the Rum Cream Liqueur oops.gif

[El Dorado]

Oops - I forgot to include the 3-yr and 5-yr and the Rum Cream Liqueur oops.gif

That's great. Now that the range is available you can make your choice. The good thing about rum is that it is the most versatile alcoholic beverage. You can have a rum to match almost any other alcoholic beverage but the same is not true inthe reverse. Better yet with ED you say what you drink and a match can be found for you.
As the saying goes - if music be the food of love, play on. Verily I say onto you if rum be the food of life, drink on.

[Tiare]

As the saying goes - if music be the food of love, play on. Verily I say onto you if rum be the food of life, drink on.

And yes, that`s what we do!

Cheers!

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[Craig_Hochscheid]

FYI, Binny's in Chicago sells it. I didn't see it at Sams Wine & Spirits however, which is odd because because Sam's generally has a much better rum selection than Binnys. No competiton, in fact.

[Craig_Hochscheid]

I am seeing El Dorado High Strength Rum around the internet more and more lately. I'm having a hard time locating Lemon Hart 151 Demerara lately and I've thought about trying the High strength as a substitute.

I have noticed that nowhere on the bottle does this rum say that it is a 'Demerara' rum. The High Strength is also clear - ala JW&N's Overproof- and appears to have little to no age to it. My questions are:

1. Is this product in fact a Demerara rum?

2. How does this rum taste in comparison with Lemon Hart 151?

3. How does this product work in cocktails that call for Demerara 151, such as the Zombie, Jet Pilot etc?

I would apprecite any insight into the El Dorado High Strength Rum that anyone might have.

Mahalo,

Craig

[Joe Riley]

I am seeing El Dorado High Strength Rum around the internet more and more lately. I'm having a hard time locating Lemon Hart 151 Demerara lately and I've thought about trying the High strength as a substitute.

I have noticed that nowhere on the bottle does this rum say that it is a 'Demerara' rum. The High Strength is also clear - ala JW&N's Overproof- and appears to have little to no age to it. My questions are:

1. Is this product in fact a Demerara rum?

2. How does this rum taste in comparison with Lemon Hart 151?

3. How does this product work in cocktails that call for Demerara 151, such as the Zombie, Jet Pilot etc?

I would apprecite any insight into the El Dorado High Strength Rum that anyone might have.

Mahalo,

Craig
Craig,

I cannot answer every one of your questions (lack of expertise in certain areas) but I can answer these for you.

1) El Dorado is the private label of Demerara Distillers Limited (http://www.demrum.com/), which has been making rum in Guyana since the 1600's and was the original supplier of rum to the British Royal Navy. It is distilled from Demerara sugar. It is, therefore, Demerara rum.

2) Lemon Hart 151 is a recently discontinued product. If you see any in the marketplace, buy it while you can. It was made for Allied Domecq (now Pernod Ricard) by DDL. As it stands, the only Lemon Hart available for sale in the U.S. is the 80-proof.

It might be worth playing around with other overproof rums to see which one(s) suite your cocktail needs. I can tell you that the following are available in the U.S. but this list is by no means exhaustive, it is just what I am currently aware of:

Gosling's 151 (Bermuda)
Cruzan 151 (St. Croix)
J. Wray & Nephew 126 (Jamaica)
El Dorado 151 (Guyana)
Sunset Very Strong Rum 169-pf (St. Vincent and the Grenadines)
Bacardi 151 (Puerto Rico)

[Craig_Hochscheid]

Joe,

Thanks for your reply. I had heard rumours that LH151 was discontinued, but had not had that confirmed until now. I'm currently using Gosling's 151 but, while much better than Bacardi 151 it lacks the complex smokiness of Demerara Rum. I think that I'll try Cruzan's version until I can get my hands on the El Dorado.

[forrest]

I'm currently using Gosling's 151 but, while much better than Bacardi 151 it lacks the complex smokiness of Demerara Rum. I think that I'll try Cruzan's version until I can get my hands on the El Dorado.

i love both the Cruzan and the Gosling 151.Gosling is closer, but you already noticed that it is an imperfect sub, Cruzan-though delectable- would be an even less perfect sub.

[Craig_Hochscheid]

i love both the Cruzan and the Gosling 151.Gosling is closer, but you already noticed that it is an imperfect sub, Cruzan-though delectable- would be an even less perfect sub.

Hmmm....A mixture of Goslings 151 & El Dorado High Strength to replace the Lemon Hart 151 Demerara? I feel an experiment coming on.

[Michael]

I'll give it a taste test the next time we mix tiki-style, as we still have some of all three 151s (LH, ED and Goslings). Let us kniow how your experiment turns out. glass.gif

[Tiare]

Hmmm....A mixture of Goslings 151 & El Dorado High Strength to replace the Lemon Hart 151 Demerara? I feel an experiment coming on.

Not a bad idea but i believe to get that good and deep demerara flavour you need to add also a dark demerara rum as well and i would suggest - 2:2:1 of Goslings 151 & El Dorado High Strength and El Dorado 15.