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Edward Hamilton
05-12-2007, 01:06 PM
All too often it is frustrating to taste a great spirit that you've found in another state or country and then not be able to find more of it when you run out or return home.

In the US, there is a three tier system of liquor distribution which dictates that distillers and importers only sell to distributors which are licensed in each state who can only sell to retail shops, bars and restaurants in that state. In some states the distribution tier, and in some, even the retail store tier, are owned by the state.

In some countries, distribution is controlled completely by the government who administer distribution and collect all of the taxes. In others, liquor distribution is more of a free market where importers sell to bars and restaurants but in every instance there are regulations which dictate bottle size, labeling and contents.

So how does this relate to the consumer who's looking for a good bottle of rum? Retail stores have to buy from their established suppliers. I don't know of any market where a retail store can buy directly from the distillery. And no distillery is going to bother shipping a couple of cases of rum to a retail shop, even if they could. The shipping and handling costs are just too high to be worth while for a couple of reasons. Customs regulations require that every shipment be accompanied by a small stack of paperwork.

Retailers generally want to improve their selection of spirits, but they have to rely on their distributors who may or may not want to improve their product line. So what's a consumer to do? The best thing a consumer can do to improve the selection in their local store is to ask for new products. Only after a retailer identifies a demand will they ask their distributor who may or may not feel it is worth their time to find, warehouse and sell a new product.

Specialty stores are generally the best places to shop because they are deal with the small importers and distributors who have an interest in boutique and small production products. Only a few of the larger stores deal with the smaller distributors who handle the smaller volume brands, which are often the best products.

Once a spirit is approved for sale in your country, you should be able to buy it if you are persistent enough at your local level. But until you ask your local store for something you want they aren't going to put it on their shelf on the hope that someone is just going to walk into their store, find it and buy it.

John von Pey
09-24-2008, 08:04 AM
In Europe it is pretty difficult to find more rums than Bacardi, Havana Club and Eldorado. Over the years I have found some shops which do have a decent collection:

Koelner Rum Kontor (http://www.koelnerrumkontor.de/) in Cologne/Koln, Germany has a stock of about 500 different rums

Weinquelle Luhmann (https://www.weinquelle.com/rum/index.html) in Hamburg, Germany is worth a visit too, they stock about 300 different rums (and a lot of other spirits)

And recently I found Huis Windels (http://www.huiswindels.be/Indekijker/indekijker.htm) in Mechelen, Belgium. Not much rums but quality is present. Not worth a special trip, but if you are in the neighbourhood do go there.

Berbician
09-25-2008, 01:57 AM
John,

Is Surinamese rum widely available in the Netherlands, and if so, have you ever tried any, and what were your opinions?

I'm partly curious because it's impossible to get in the UK at the moment.

John von Pey
09-25-2008, 05:25 AM
Hello Berbician,

I can't remember ever having seen a Surinam rum over here. Can you help me with a brand name, I'll be happy to look for you.

gatomalo
09-25-2008, 08:07 AM
In Europe it is pretty difficult to find more rums than Bacardi, Havana Club and Eldorado.

In the UK we have a an ever-expanding selection of rums in supermarkets, as well as several specialist shops in London which stock a fantastic range of rums. My local Waitrose supermarket currently stocks Bacardi 8 años, Angostura 1919, Angostura 1824, Cockspur 5 star, Cockspur 12, English Harbour 5 years, Matusalem 10 and 15 años, Mount Gay Eclipse and Barbancourt 8 years (as well as all the usual rums like Bacardi, HC and Captain Morgan).

In Spain the selection of rums in supermarkets and grocery stores can be fantastic. Widely-available brands include Havana Club, Cacique, Pampero, Barceló and Brugal. Also, brands like Santa Teresa, Legendario, Ron Varadero and Matusalem can be found with a little effort.

I also understand that Italy has a similarly wide selection of available rums, although I cannot confirm this.

I have always been disappointed with the availability of rums in France. Despite the heritage of French Caribbean distillers, rum plays second fiddle to wine, cognac and even liqueurs. Rhum Negrita, Bacardi and Captain Morgan are the only widely available rums, although if you're lucky you might stumble across the odd bottle of Saint-James or Dillons.

Liquor shops in Morocco usually have a lousy selection of cheap and nasty French Caribbean rums, however I did find a bottle of Old Pascas dark rum from Barbados, which was pretty good.

In Japan, Myers and Bacardi dominate, although there are plenty of specialist shops which carry a good selection of Caribbean and South American rums. There is even now a Japanese rum producer, based on the islands of Okinawa, where sugar cane is one of the main crops. The rum is called Grace Rum, of which there are three different kinds, one white, one agricole and one premium aged. Unfortunately my Japan working visa expired before I found out about this company, and so I did not have chance to try any of their rums. I will be looking for them next time I visit Japan.

The Rum Ambassador
09-25-2008, 09:10 AM
Hello Berbician,

I can't remember ever having seen a Surinam rum over here. Can you help me with a brand name, I'll be happy to look for you.

There is Black Kat and the Borgoe range available from Surinam in Holland.

Berbician
09-27-2008, 01:06 AM
There is Black Kat and the Borgoe range available from Surinam in Holland.

Borgoe was the one that I was thinking of. I keep hearing rumours that it will soon be available in the UK, but haven't found it yet.:(

Ian, do you have any at "Cottons" yet? If so, I'll come up to Chalk Farm and pay you a visit.drooling3.gif

Berbician
09-27-2008, 01:10 AM
Hello Berbician,

I can't remember ever having seen a Surinam rum over here. Can you help me with a brand name, I'll be happy to look for you.

That's very kind of you, John, but please don't go to any trouble for my sake.

frenchrumlover
09-28-2008, 12:10 AM
a can assure you , in london you an find much more than el dorado, havanah and baardi, you just need to know where to looking for

frenchrumlover
09-28-2008, 12:12 AM
sorry , i m to tired to type properly

John von Pey
10-02-2008, 05:31 AM
It's nice there is so much to find in London, but I live in The Netherlands and to hop over the Channel "just" for some rum...

But since I have sold my house this week (no, not to buy rum!) I might do it though...

John von Pey
10-08-2008, 05:50 AM
I found another nice adress in The Netherlands: whiskyworld (http://http://www.whiskyworld.nl/). Don't be fooled by the name, check their site and click on prijslijst (http://www.whiskyworld.nl/prices/prices.htm). Next the tab "div" at the bottom of the screen and scroll down to rum. They don't send rums but are pleased to help you find a dealer nearby (although I don't know if they have overseas adresses...)